thank you both for your time tonight. >> thanks. >> you know, joan, this is breath taking even for romney. >> it really is. you know, i have a tiny bit of sympathy for his campaign, reverend al, now, because they are people who follow around the parade with the pooper scooper. every time he says something like that -- i feel like i've gotten into a rhythm now. he's said something controversial. wait one, two, three. somebody is going to give a statement to the national review. he didn't mean that either. whether it's the pre-existing thing or choice. the amount of legislation coming down the pike, and also what romney knows about that legislation because he framed it in a wriggle room way. even with all of those outs, he's still lying. he knows he's losing with women. >> that's the point. it's like he'll do anything to close the deal. it's like he's still in the venture capital business, close the deal, say anything. and erin, the president is calling him on this. let me show you what we just got in, what the president said in an interview today. >> he thinks that it is appropriate for po